tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post115700026164572536..comments2023-10-24T06:52:08.798-05:00Comments on Circle Jerk at the Square Dance: A Public Service Announcement for the Fucking ClownsBrandohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10484284471046027179noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157502523284470562006-09-05T19:28:00.000-05:002006-09-05T19:28:00.000-05:00Was that St. Paul's?Was that St. Paul's?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157466882072004532006-09-05T09:34:00.000-05:002006-09-05T09:34:00.000-05:00My only association with poker is that I went to t...My only association with poker is that I went to the same snooty prep school (at the same time) as Howie Lederer (and his sister Annie).fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01522672049371678717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157223672931800732006-09-02T14:01:00.000-05:002006-09-02T14:01:00.000-05:00I hope you realize, Jordan, that there is a coroll...I hope you realize, Jordan, that there is a corollary to Godwin's Law wherein if one, in the course of a political discussion, invokes Kos without making a substantive reply, the invoker has lost the argument.teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157139372901676632006-09-01T14:36:00.000-05:002006-09-01T14:36:00.000-05:00Teh, we will save this battle for another post on ...Teh, we will save this battle for another post on another day as this one is going nowhere.Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157138379960234842006-09-01T14:19:00.000-05:002006-09-01T14:19:00.000-05:00You've been tagged for the Book Meme: http://paren...You've been tagged for the Book Meme: http://parentheticalremarks.blogspot.com/2006/09/thanks-for-meme-ories.htmlPete Blackwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705795022786139315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157137025730009602006-09-01T13:57:00.000-05:002006-09-01T13:57:00.000-05:00"That insanity is doing the same thing over and ov..."That insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?"<BR/><BR/>True true. I believe another operative definition is seeing things that aren't there. Jordan's exhibiting a lot of that...teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157136836948259172006-09-01T13:53:00.000-05:002006-09-01T13:53:00.000-05:00"Teh, thanks for the Daily Kos talking points, but..."Teh, thanks for the Daily Kos talking points, but I have read them before."<BR/><BR/>w00t!!! I PWN!!! Winner, table for one please.<BR/><BR/>[blows smoke off barrels, reholsters...]teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157130457257528202006-09-01T12:07:00.000-05:002006-09-01T12:07:00.000-05:00yawn...Teh, thanks for the Daily Kos talking point...yawn...<BR/><BR/>Teh, thanks for the Daily Kos talking points, but I have read them before.<BR/><BR/>And Almostinfamous, you forget to list Rove. Many problems could easy be blamed on Rove.Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157128085213553182006-09-01T11:28:00.000-05:002006-09-01T11:28:00.000-05:00Good points, teh. If I'm not mistaken, I think the...Good points, teh. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Bush Administration's domestic security focus was initially drug traffic rather than counter terrorism -- at least, that was Ashcroft's priority. <BR/><BR/>I certainly agree that there's plenty of 9/11 blame to go around. From the training of the mujadeen during the Reagan years to the failure to get bin Laden in the Clinton, you can spread a whole host of blame around. Our government as a whole was asleep at the wheel for a couple of decades.<BR/><BR/>But the "Bush was in office only 8 months" argument does not wash. When you take over the White House, you take over the White House. There's no time out. You can't ask the terrorists to wait while you cover up the boobies of statues.<BR/><BR/>If you read the August 6, 2001 PDB, it's pretty urgent. That's not to say we could have stopped 9/11 necessarily, but if you look at the actions the government took at that stage, they didn't have the urgency that memo suggested they should have. <BR/><BR/>As for the Democrats not having a plan... what's the old saying? That insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? We've been doing the same thing in Iraq for three years, and we still have an unstable security situation. The elections are all well and good, but until the government there can support itself, they have little real, non-symbolic value. I don't see the administration proposing anything that will change that. <BR/><BR/>My last bit of soapboxing: what kills me about Iraq is that it was easy to predict what would happen. The State Department had a 13 volume study about the potential fallout of Hussein falling, and quite a lot of their predictions were correct. We also had a real-life example in Yugoslavia when a totalitarian regime fell and the various ethnic groups had a chance to kill each other. Yet every stage of Iraq planning by the White House and DoD seemed built on the premise that if you toppled Hussein, democracy would start flowing. It's that utter ignorance of the situation coupled with arrogance of their own infallibility that bothers me much more than their political affiliation. If you're going to impose your ideology on the world, you could at least try to do it competently.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10484284471046027179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157122033678064062006-09-01T09:47:00.000-05:002006-09-01T09:47:00.000-05:00PS brando: sucks about the poker game. at least yo...PS brando: sucks about the poker game. at least you were smart enough to not bet your car keys ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157121902245590102006-09-01T09:45:00.000-05:002006-09-01T09:45:00.000-05:00hey AG, looks like brando's got a pet republican o...hey AG, looks like brando's got a pet republican of his own!<BR/><BR/>and no jordan, we(and i am pretentious enough to speak for the people who think like me) don't think that all problems are related to bush. that would be overestimating our enemy. what we do think is that it is all <I>cheney's</I> fault.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157119877793041962006-09-01T09:11:00.000-05:002006-09-01T09:11:00.000-05:00Jordan,How nice of you to respond."Clinton had 8 y...Jordan,<BR/><BR/>How nice of you to respond.<BR/><BR/>"Clinton had 8 years to deal with the Islamic extremists; Bush had 8 months. Yeah, you're right...I guess I should place more blame on Bush."<BR/><BR/>You misrepresent the situation. Per Paul O'Neill, the Bush administration made a conscious effort not to pursue anti-terrorism upon taking office. This is not to imply some conspiracy. Rather, there was a powerful, conscious effort on the incoming administration to distance itself from anything "Clinton"; they felt it important from a political and marketing standpoint. Alas and unfortunately, the outgoing administration made such a hullaballoo about terrorism that the Bushies felt obligated to label it a "Clinton thing" and push it to the back burner in favor of such nutball ideas as missile defense and formulating pretexts so they could go ahead with an Iraq invasion as soon as the opportunity presented itself.<BR/><BR/>Meaning this administration ignored important PDBs. Meaning this administration expended zero effort on the bin Laden problem.<BR/><BR/>And like it or not, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. You would think that a representative of the party of "personal responsibility," such as yourself, would expect some modicum of accountability in an Oval Office occupied by a Republican.<BR/><BR/>And as for the "plenty of blame to go around" argument regarding Katrina -- an argument usually used disingenuously to obfuscate what role we have come to expect the federal government to assume in the face of something as enormous as a Category 4 or 5 hurricane -- I have a response formulated to a gentleman who, though a Republican Christian, is unlike you, not a batshit insane wingnut. It is forthcoming at my blog.<BR/><BR/>"I know this is going to come as a big surprise but every problem in the world is not linked to Bush. I know it makes it easier for you to understand, but unfortunately it is untrue."<BR/><BR/>I know it seems comforting to you to think that Bush and his junta bear no responsibility for anything that happens on their watch, and that they should suffer no consequences for their actions and inactions, but representative democracy simply shouldn't work that way.teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157117621265056932006-09-01T08:33:00.000-05:002006-09-01T08:33:00.000-05:00What does LA being a red have to do with the fact ...What does LA being a red have to do with the fact that most of their politicians on a city and state being Democrat?<BR/><BR/>"Daddy's revenge war." It is this type of rhetoric that assures me that the Democrats will not regain the majority. Your hatred of Bush won't translate to election victories, a clear vision for the future of American will. <BR/><BR/>America is still waiting for the Democrat's plan. They are great at telling us what is wrong, but they are a little short on solutions.Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157117181016779512006-09-01T08:26:00.000-05:002006-09-01T08:26:00.000-05:00Adorable Girlfriend,Let's see if I have your argum...Adorable Girlfriend,<BR/><BR/>Let's see if I have your argument summed up correctly:<BR/><BR/>"Yeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!111!!!!"<BR/><BR/>Did I miss something?Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157115545770704142006-09-01T07:59:00.000-05:002006-09-01T07:59:00.000-05:00I don't play poker - don't know how - but this was...I don't play poker - don't know how - but this was great fun to read.<BR/><BR/>Jordan, man, wake up.Kevin Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490345765638949916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157111102522004852006-09-01T06:45:00.000-05:002006-09-01T06:45:00.000-05:00Jordan -- Let's see, in the eight years that Clint...Jordan -- <BR/><BR/>Let's see, in the eight years that Clinton was President, how many Americans died in the WTC or Iraq? Does Bush even have a foreign relations plan beyond "knocking that shit off" and bomb and awe?<BR/><BR/>Last time I checked, LA was a red state regardless of what you think does or does not happen at the local level.<BR/><BR/>You're right, Bush is doing a stellar job spending money for a Daddy revenge war.<BR/><BR/>As for other problems in the world, we don't blame Bush. So give your incorrect ASSumptions a rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157063288446658072006-08-31T17:28:00.000-05:002006-08-31T17:28:00.000-05:00BG, my dad is a dyed in the wool Republican who ha...BG, my dad is a dyed in the wool Republican who hates my transformation into a liberal, but we still manage to get along just fine. A little disagreement is good for the blood.<BR/><BR/>AG, I knew that wasn't you, but I thought it would have been pretty funny. Actually, a poker game with all of you would be pretty fun.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10484284471046027179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157056016578262782006-08-31T15:26:00.000-05:002006-08-31T15:26:00.000-05:00teh14m3, Actually you do recall incorrectly...Clin...teh14m3, <BR/><BR/>Actually you do recall incorrectly...<BR/><BR/>Clinton had 8 years to deal with the Islamic extremists; Bush had 8 months. Yeah, you're right...I guess I should place more blame on Bush. <BR/><BR/>While I will openly admit there were enormous errors on the federal level in regards to Katrina, but the local and state response was worse. And just for clarity, the vast majority of Louisiana voters are represented by Democrats. So, I would say there is plenty of blame to go around. <BR/><BR/>I know this is going to come as a big surprise but every problem in the world is not linked to Bush. I know it makes it easier for you to understand, but unfortunately it is untrue.Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157044103830446852006-08-31T12:08:00.000-05:002006-08-31T12:08:00.000-05:00Brando, it wasn't the original AG. UC can vouch f...Brando, it wasn't the original AG. UC can vouch for a very tired AG's locacation last night who happened to cut his cupcake picture in half when he bothered a sleepy and cranky AG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157040706067686682006-08-31T11:11:00.000-05:002006-08-31T11:11:00.000-05:00Brando, you're so nice. I would definitely put Jo...Brando, you're so nice. I would definitely put Jordon On Notice!<BR/><BR/>Kidding! I'm a nice blue girl!<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry you lost your card game. I don't know anything about card games though. Except what Kenny Rogers said once.<BR/><BR/>Better luck next time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157039946345488252006-08-31T10:59:00.000-05:002006-08-31T10:59:00.000-05:00Jordan, CJSD may be a hotbed of liberalism/dick jo...Jordan, CJSD may be a hotbed of liberalism/dick jokes, but opposing viewpoints/more dick jokes are always welcome.<BR/><BR/>AG, funny you mention that -- there was an AG online last night at my table. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I plan to get off my soapbox and get back to sketch writin'.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10484284471046027179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157038543541369162006-08-31T10:35:00.000-05:002006-08-31T10:35:00.000-05:00IIRC, Jordan, the "ostrich with their head in sand...IIRC, Jordan, the "ostrich with their head in sand" policy was the one in fact embraced by Republicans prior to 9/11 with regards to Islamic terrorism, and by Republicans during Katrina.<BR/><BR/>Then again, the Republicans seem to be enjoying enormous successes with their "sink the US treasury into the sand and wipe our asses with the Constitution..." It's just that none of us are enjoying any of the trickle-down from those successes...teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157035303808744622006-08-31T09:41:00.000-05:002006-08-31T09:41:00.000-05:00I had something close to this happen to me at Foxw...I had something close to this happen to me at Foxwoods. Luckily my friend went into the men's room at the same time another player did and they discussed what to do with the 'fucking clown' who kept yelling at me -- even though I was winning big, at his cost, in his mind. They agreed the only way to shut him up AND remove him from the table was to let AG slap him down once and for all.<BR/><BR/>It resulted in AG walking away that night with $300 free dollars and leaning over the table during a play to Mr. Red Sox hat wearer and saying, "How does it feel to not only lose your money to Foxwoods, but to a 2X year-old-girl whose has played cards about three times in her life? Too bad you cannot say that for your virginity"<BR/><BR/><BR/>I was happy to wait another two years before the Sox won a series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157032646447884502006-08-31T08:57:00.000-05:002006-08-31T08:57:00.000-05:00I'll play Bush's hand any day over the ostrich wit...I'll play Bush's hand any day over the ostrich with their head in sand approach of the Democrats. <BR/><BR/>The threats are real and they don't go away if we return home from Iraq with our tail between our legs. <BR/><BR/>As a side note, I do actually enjoy your blog. While we may differ on our views, I enjoy the humor [for the most part] found on this site. Hence the reason I linked to this blog from mine.Jeremie Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741776323858871461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12562069.post-1157032463292126922006-08-31T08:54:00.000-05:002006-08-31T08:54:00.000-05:00And I will be the first to admit that complaining ...And I will be the first to admit that complaining about poker beats is like complaining about fantasy football injuries -- they come with the territory and no one cares ;-)Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10484284471046027179noreply@blogger.com